Thursday, October 21, 2021

Converting Hartz IV 'Welfare-Money' to 'Citizens-Money'?

 So in the midst of this German coalition building (new SPD-Green-FDP government), the talk is....Hartz IV welfare money has to end.  They want to replace it with something called 'Burgergeld' which loosely translates to 'Citizens-money'.

A name-only flip?  Well....there's an argument brewing over this.

The talk is....somehow, via this new program (really welfare).....they want people to get enthusiastic about working, and getting training to fit into some future job.  But when you explain this....it's basically what Hartz IV was all about.....to drive you toward training to get out of welfare.

So the change-crowd is talking now.....that the new program has to have a lot more training money attached to it.  You'd entice the guy to accept the training, then get motivated to move onto a real job.....thus leaving welfare entirely. 

Back at the conclusion of 2018, the Hartz IV management folks announced that 5.93 million Germans/residents (out of 83-million total) are on some form of the welfare program.  

If you go viewing the public debates on this....some people (within the management of the program) will suggest that between a quarter to half of the whole Hartz IV welfare group are permanent people (druggies, alcoholics, people with zero desire to work).  Some will say they have anxiety/stress problems in work situations (driving them to smoke cannabis to relieve the 'pain'). 

If I were the guy messing with this?  I'd start off with a depot-style building in each city/village where the Hartz IV people gather each day at 8 AM and stay within the facility for eight hours....getting them used to leaving home.  I'd have some chairs for them to sit in, and a cellphone 'jammer' in the facility to ensure their phones didn't work.  

Then I'd offer up the options: training programs, drug/alcohol rehab, or some physical fitness program.

The odds in four years that the burgergeld deal changes nothing?  I'd give it a 90-percent chance of nothing really resolving the mess.  

The incredible problem here....the nation needs 80,000 new truck drivers.  If you could find the 80,000 welfare people....who'd pass the drug/alcohol situation and show reliability....you'd only have to pay around 10k Euro per person....to get them their license/training.  

3 comments:

Claudio said...

I bet if you do that a lot if them will claim anxiety and require some sort of exemption due to their disability, these guys are very crafty they know all the rules in the book and they will play you as a violin, i had to deal with 2 of them as tenants, i ended up paying them to leave. It ia unreal, but since then i better keep the apartments vacant than to have them filled with this type of people.

Schnitzel_Republic said...

Years ago (probably early 90s)...a radio interview was going on, with an American and a Dutch expert on welfare. So the Dutch problems were laid out. Somewhere in the early 80s, the Netherlands added a health problem where you could get time off, and even eventually use this for medical retirement. The category....anxiety and panic attacks.

What they found, as months passed....this category grew each quarter, and by the early 1990s, there were around 25k Dutch people on semi-health retirement. Some of them....as young as 25 years old.

The American accidentally asked the next question...did this lead back to Dutch acceptance of cannabis and people were having addiction problems to the extreme of affecting their work performance. 'Naturally' was the response from the Dutch guy. I doubt if any moderator would dare ask this question today.

Claudio said...

LOL of course they are, i pass by some government own buildings TCHC Toronto Housing Corporation that mainly hosts these guys, and every day i see them in their balconies smoking their marihuana, or bubbling in their glass bongs. You give them free homes and free money for food they will never look for a job they will continue on what they do best.

My only thing that i would suggest is re-education!

My dad was re-educated in a communist camp back in 1950’es got out in 1965 . He was truly re-educated ! He was originally a history teacher in a high school, he thought he can ho astray from the published manuals, he got caught and reeducated

He survived he cane out at 44 years okd as a 55 kg person with no teeth in his mouth after working in a forced labour camp for 8 years.

That is a fact, i dis not know him at the time as i was born in 1968 after he remarried and he started a new life. But these were the times back then.

When i see the people complain here for anything that is nit posting on social media makes me sick…

They should really go through a re-education camp